Mandatory Spay and Neutering Proposed for City Dogs and Cats

Kevin Killeen

ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOX) — All city dogs and cats would face mandatory spay or neutering, under a bill before the board of aldermen.

“Well, what we hope it does is contribute to solving the stray problem in the city of St. Louis,” said sponsoring alderwoman Lyda Krewson of the Central West End.

The bill came up for debate before the holiday break, but was strongly opposed by Northside Alderman Freeman Bosley Senior, who fears his two watchdogs might go “docile” if they underwent the procedure.

“This is America and you got to have a medical procedure done on your dog without you being able to determine what you want to do with yours?”  Bosley said, “You might as well come in my house and tell me what color to paint my walls.”

img 3206 Mandatory Spay and Neutering Proposed for City Dogs and Cats

Northside Alderman Freeman Bosley Senior

The plan would also require mandatory micro-chipping of all dogs and cats.  Also, anyone who wants to breed their dogs would need a “hobby breeders” license.

Krewson envisions the procedures taking place in conjunction with pets getting rabies shots, which are already mandatory.

Enforcing the law would involve fines that start at $100.  But Krewson wants a flexible response, so that violators would have 60 days to get their pets fixed and “make the fines go away.”

To help the poor pay for the cost of the operations on their pets, the city would provide some income-based cost reductions.

Doing something to fix the stray dog problem is also a priority of Aldermanic President Lewis Reed, who voiced fears last year about wild dogs wandering the city, frightening school children.

The problem is not a new one.  In March, of 2001 a pack of stray dogs attacked and killed 10-year old Rodney McAllister in a north St. Louis park.

Copyright KMOX

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  1. Clinton says:

    Animal rights extremists oppose all pet ownership and push for mandatory spay and neuter laws to move us closer to dog extinction. If all dogs are spayed and neutered, the valuable pure bred traits that helped humanity survive to create civilization (tracking, herding, guarding, retrieving, killing vermine) will disappear in less than a decade. Fight extinction, buy a pure bred dog from a reliable breeder!

    1. elizabethrc says:

      Clinton: You’re completely right. It would be far better for the negligent owners who allow their dogs to roam the streets to face huge fines and no longer be allowed to own a pet, since they don’t care to take care of them properly.
      As a breeder, I only do occasional breeding and see to it that my puppies go to good, responsible homes. The buyers sign a contract with me which I enforce if they do not live up to the care aspect of that contract.
      These are hapless creatures and deserve better treatment than this hateful lawmaker proposes.

    2. Deano says:

      Extinct?! Have you seen the number of cats and dogs euthanized every year in our country due to lack of homes for them? The figure is approximately five MILLION! The vast majority are highly adoptable, and YES purebreds are being killed, too.

      This legislation is long overdue.

      1. Hal McCombs says:

        Have you ever even read the U.S. Constitution?

      2. Middle Way says:

        Exactly Deano . . . we need to outlaw cars as well. They just hurt the environment and have you seen how many people cars kill every year. Talk about legislation long overdue.

      3. Animal Lover says:

        Sorry – but you are drinking too much “kool aid” from the H$U$. Nope – there are VERY few if any pure-breds in the shelters. AND – get this – IF there are, we are charged with getting them out by our association with the AKC. Furthermore – IF all the dogs and cats are hysterectomied or castrated – please explain where the NEXT generation will come from??? By the way – that question was posed to me by a 9-year-old boy. Funny how HE understands what many of your mature adults have overlooked.

      4. Vet Barnes says:

        The number is less than 3.4 million and the majority of them are cats. So get your facts strait not off the animal rights agenda. Did you know that there is in every state a wild species of dog that has a DNA similar to the Australian Dingo. We are causing their extinction by not identifying them and setting aside their terroritory. These are not pets and will be extremely fearful if cornered. Studies show that spay and neuter as mandatory does not work and in fact costs the city 257% more to implement. Voluntary spay and neuter, free spay and neuter for the poor is the only thing that is shown to work. Also if you want people to license their pets you need to give them a service such as returning their pet should it get loose rather than killing it. Those cities successful in lowering the shelter rates and keep loose dogs home are those cities that enact laws that offer a service to the public. Any law that is ignored is a bad law and the people are telling you they don’t like nor do they feel its fair.To the knowledge of the ASPCA, the only method of population control that has demonstrated long-term efficacy in significantly reducing the number of animals entering animal shelters is the voluntary sterilization of owned pets (Clancy & Rowan 2003; FIREPAW, 2004; Secovich, 2003).There is also evidence that sterilizing very specific, at-risk sub-populations of companion animals, such as feral cats and animals in shelters, can also contribute to reductions in overpopulation (Zawistowski et al., 1998; Clancy & Rowan 2003; Levy et al., 2003; Lord et al., 2006; Natoli et al., 2006). However, the ASPCA is not aware of any credible evidence demonstrating a statistically significant enhancement in the reduction of shelter intake or euthanasia as a result of the implementation of a mandatory spay/neuter law.
        Caution must therefore be applied when interpreting existing claims regarding the effects of local mandatory spay/neuter (MSN) laws. First, because per capita shelter intake and euthanasia are in decline due to voluntary spaying and neutering, it is impossible to determine the effect of an MSN law without comparing a community’s trends in shelter intake and euthanasia for several years before and after the law was enacted to trends in adjacent, similar communities without MSN legislation. Furthermore, to determine with confidence the effects of any spay/neuter program on the animal population, which naturally fluctuates somewhat from year to year, population trends must be examined over a period sufficiently long to absorb those natural fluctuations. Claims based on one or two years of data can be misleading.
        In addition, it is imprudent to generalize about the effects of MSN laws. One reason is that the definition of “mandatory” varies greatly across communities. In some localities, a citation may be issued for any animal over the age of four months seen unaltered, while in other communities, a citation results only when another animal control offence has been committed or if more than one unspayed female lives in the household. Another complication is that it can be extremely difficult for even a veterinary professional to visually determine if an animal, particularly a female, has been sterilized; it would be virtually impossible for an animal control officer to make those determinations in the field. For these reasons, and due to variation across communities in law enforcement funding and personnel support, actual enforcement of MSN laws varies widely, making comparisons between MSN laws or predictions about their impact very difficult.
        Another reason for caution when interpreting the effects of MSN legislation is that shelter intake and euthanasia statistics are often presented as a total number of dogs and cats. In some communities, the number of dogs entering and being euthanized in shelters is dropping significantly while the number of cats is declining more slowly or even increasing. Therefore it is critical to examine population and shelter statistics for dogs and cats separately, so that reductions in dog intake and euthanasia do not mask increases in cat intake and euthanasia. This issue is particularly critical in the analysis of the effect of MSN laws, since feral and unowned stray cats continue to represent a substantial proportion of the shelter population and euthanasia. This major contributing factor is not addressed by MSN laws that, by nature, target owned animals.
        Even when an MSN law seems to have a positive effect on one aspect of animal welfare, it may have a negative effect on another. For instance, in at least one community that enacted an MSN law, fewer pets were subsequently licensed, likely due to owners’ reluctance to pay either the high fee for keeping an unaltered animal or the fee to have the pet altered (Office of Legislative Oversight, 1997).
        The ASPCA is also concerned that some communities may rely primarily or exclusively on MSN legislation to reduce shelter intake and euthanasia even though the animal shelter population is actually very heterogeneous with no single cause or source (National Council on Pet Population Study and Policy, 2001). Many social, cultural and economic factors as well as animal health and behavioral issues contribute to shelter intake; therefore, no single program or law can be relied on to solve the problem.
        Furthermore, one of the main barriers to spaying and neutering of pets is accessibility of services, which is not addressed simply by making spaying and neutering mandatory. Cost is one of the primary barriers to spay/neuter surgery in many communities (Patronek et al., 1997; Ralston Purina, 2000; Frank, 2001). In fact, low household income and poverty are statistically associated with having a sexually intact cat (Patronek et al, 1997; Chu et al., 2009), with relinquishment of pets to shelters (Patronek et al., 1996), and with shelter intake (Frank, 2003). As a result, the proportion of pets from poor communities who are being euthanized in shelters remains high; shelter euthanasia rates in the poorest counties in states such as California and New Jersey are several times higher than those in the most affluent counties (Handy, 2002; Marsh, 2008).

    3. Betsy says:

      I am no extremist, and I find your words offensive. While there may be some “extreme” extremists who oppose all pet ownership, I have yet to hear of one. Are you calling, by the way, the Humane Society and the ASPCA “extremists”? They do, after all, push for spaying and neutering.

      While you have good points regarding “all dogs” being spayed or neutered and eventual extinction…far fetched, but who knows. But your agenda is quite obvious, with the “Fight extinction, buy a pure bred blah blah blah”.

      There are many problems with many “breeders”. Many. And there are many problems with people not spaying and neutering, as evidenced by our filled shelters and the horrible abuse we see perpetuated on animals. It’s pathetic. “Purebred” animals with horrible genetic illnesses which cause massive suffering for both the animal and the owner who sought a “purebred”…caused by overbreeding and greed. Non-purebred animals who are usually unwanted, why does this happen????

      Because their owners were too irresponsible to find a way to spay or neuter their animal, the animal mates of course, and lots of unwanted animals result. If this pet owner refused to spay or neuter his own pet, why on earth would he or she spay the 10 puppies that resulted? And so on…and so on…and each and every one of these unwanted animals will be lucky to survive without abuse, pain, suffering.

      I don’t make a lot of money, but I do know not to purchase an animal if I cannot take care of spaying and neutering. There is a reason that shelters require you to spay or neuter before you adopt. They want to end what they witness every single day…hundreds of euthanized animals a week, animals being turned over to the shelter abused, injured, lost, unwanted….obviously many people don’t care if their animals have litter after litter of young, or they would spay or neuter. It’s very insulting to me to hear you claim that animal rights “extremists” are the ones pushing for spay and neuter laws. I don’t consider people who look out for the welfare of animals “extremists”, and I do care for the welfare of animals. For you to stereotype animal lovers as extremists who want dog extinction is utterly ridiculous, irresponsible, and hints at an agenda.

      Did it ever occur to you that maybe the people of St. Louis who actually really DO CARE about animals and their suffering are the ones supporting this law? It’s a huge problem but you are worried about your “breeding” so you attack them all the way around. What does this say about you and your motives?

      It hurts me to see animals suffer, and I’m sure it hurts most people with hearts. If it takes forced spaying and neutering to stop animals from having to suffer, because human beings cannot act responsibly, so be it. The old excuse that “I cannot afford it” doesn’t fly. Don’t get an animal if you cannot afford to spay or neuter it, because that will mean the offspring that result will also not be cared for.

      Unless you are acquiring a pet specifically for breeding purposes, you should be forced to spay or neuter, in my opinion. If someone lacks the sense to consider the animal, then someone else will have to do the thinking for them. Breeders should be required to pass stringent inspections and laws. If it’s truly about the “animals” and not about the “money”, then breeders should not mind.

      Breeders who claim to care about animals should make it top priority to support laws that force spaying and/or neutering. Why any breeder would object so strongly to a proposal to actually HELP animals is questionable. Spaying and neutering is a responsibility and these animals are ALL of our responsibility. Since so many people obviously choose to NOT be responsible, it may have to be mandatory. Maybe this problem would not be occuring if people had reacted earlier to a real problem and not ignored it. Just because they are socked away in shelters and euthanized and we are not forced to see it every day, does not mean the problem doesn’t exist.

      I’m not for government control any more than the next person, I am a Republican, I am not an extremist, I have no agenda and I do not live in St. Louis. What I am is a person who cares about the other creatures that God put on this earth who are unable to fend for themselves.

      1. Ted Rutherford says:

        God, Betsy, shut up!

      2. asdds says:

        If you took the time Betsy to watch your dog over writing this book of a comment maybe things would be better.

      3. gx says:

        when someone has to make a point to point out they are Republican, while supporting a big government non-conservative liberal progressive idea.. i highly doubt they’re Republican

      4. Animal Lover says:

        You are way out in left field – H$U$ and ASPCA are the same as PETA with the same agenda – and that is to eradicate the bond between humans and the rest of the animal world.

        Have you ever read your idol’s meanderings??? Darling Wayne has NEVER owned a dog, a cat, a pet. He has STATED that he’s never had an attachment or affiliation with an animal. His agenda is the same as PETA! Seriously – do you believe we should be vegans? PETA does – so does Wayne and his minions. Do some research before you attack others.

      5. Zig Sulewski says:

        Why not spay and neuter illegal immigrants???

    4. James Kalinski says:

      That is the reason I bought a Pure Weirmeraner, Breeding him was second choice but I knew what I was getting and by the way was the best dog I ever had… Had to pay more in a city tax but well worth it…

  2. mike says:

    While they are at it, there are a lot of St. Louis residents who should be neutered as well. It would go a long way toward solving the city’s problems.

    1. Captian Obvious says:

      Right. I assume you are referring to the North American Pavement Apes that are destroying the city, and the nation.

      1. mike says:

        the same…….,although others have said it much more eloquently than I.

      2. DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH! says:

        I call it http://www.NewNation.org

    2. MorganGray says:

      It is the busybody politicians, pressure groups, and others who want increased government meddling in our lives who should be spayed or neutered.
      At least we’d have fewer leftists in government that way.

    3. Suburban Boy says:

      Let’s start with the downtown loft dwellers

  3. Jim silver says:

    Sounds as if the aldermen need a glass-ectomy. Better to attack the stray problem by rounding them up and dealing with them rather than attack the pet owners and theri pets. Even these aldermen don’t deserve neutering.

    1. Jonathan Williams says:

      You can’t “round them up and deal with them.” The same people that won’t spay or neuter won’t let them put the dogs to sleep either. Where are we going to put all these animals? Who’s going to pay for their care. Here in San Antonio, the pound is often full and they have many days when they refuse to come out and pick up strays.

      1. Lisa says:

        No one is going to pay for their care because we’re going to put them down aka “deal with them”. We’re wasting our resources and time keeping unsocialized strays alive only to force them to live in metal cages inside some converted warehouse now called a “shelter”. Euthanize them and put the money towards funding low cost spay and neuter programs.

      2. Jonathan Williams says:

        I agree with you Lisa. But the fact is that the animals lovers have stopped many cities from euthanizing animals. The cities have no room to put additional animals and stop picking up strays. Spay and neuter programs do not work. They do not work even where they are free.

    2. Jim's lame says:

      Dude, that doesn’t make sense. What the h3ll is a glass-ectomy. Some MMA person make an idiotic remark and you regurgitate it? The suffix -ectomy is for excision. So, glass-ectomy means to excise glass. Not funny.

      1. Mark says:

        Glassectomy is the removal of the tongue.

    3. Fix'em first says:

      They need to fix the females and re-release them, maybe even feed them in the winter. That would keep the males busy! They could also offer some kind of tax rebate for having your pet ‘fixed’. Instead, they once again, try to violate Private Property Rights. What a surprise! How do such imbeciles get elected? Yea, it’s St. Louis.

  4. John Rosenbaum says:

    Are these people out of their collective minds? This is America, not China or Russia. We are supposed to be a free people with rights to, “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Why do these politicians have the right to nanny us to death?
    We have too many politicians with too little to do other than create laws to interfere in our lives. Fight these people as well as all others that continue to infringe on our life over this kind of drummed up issue.

    1. dmoore says:

      I agree! But you won’t take the 8 minutes it takes to contact your local politicians and voice your anger over this (not picking on you, just making a point about TOO many of us Americans who are fed up)

  5. Arthur Kinney says:

    Wouldn’t it be more cost effective and beneficial to spay and neuter all politicians?

    1. slayer88 says:

      And their offspring too. Did we all see another Kennedy is running for office? That makes the case right there.

    2. Fix'em first says:

      Here, Here!

      1. Chris says:

        He sobered up just long enough to realize his last name was “Kennedy,” and therefore is entitled to a public office of some kind.

  6. Ricardoh says:

    They should start doing that with lifelong welfare recipients..

    1. Hoser says:

      Be careful, with government policies killing jobs and forcing many people onto welfare, involuntary lifelong dependence may become common.

  7. Anthony says:

    I would have no choice but to move out of the city.

    1. Suburban Boy says:

      The Downtown Loft Dwellers caused this.

  8. Sheila says:

    The fact is that MILLIONS of animals are killed because of lack of homes. People should be responsible to spay/neuter their pets. Sometimes, that is helped if there are fines attached to the movitation.

    As for guard dogs not doing their job if neutered, that is the dumbest thing i have heard in quite sometime.! It a dog is trained, it will perform the same.

    Please, be responsible, spay or neuter your pet! There are just too many……

    1. bcns says:

      sheila. if your parents were neutered where would you be?
      maybe you would have people from IMF/UN dominated countries
      spayed as well to prevent hunger or homelessness?
      I like my purebred, predictable trait dog and i want her puppy when she’s gone.
      you would prevent that. you would prevent Champion horses or other animals from reproducing as well. Guard dog expert misguided fanatical fine supporter.

      1. marie says:

        you can get a permit to keep your dog unaltered. did you read the article?

        this is already the law in california- its not a big deal.

      2. Sheila says:

        OMG, seriously, that is your argument?? As a human, I am not at risk for being KILLED because there is no where for me to go. MILLIONS of cats and dogs are having that happening to them every year.

        As was pointed out, if you want to breed, you can, but you must get a permit.

        Perhaps, you should visit your local shelter and SEE all the animals that may be killed unless they are adopted. I have volunteered at my shelter. There are so many great animals that are killed everyday because there are not enough homes.

        In a perfect world, people would be responsible, but that is not the case. The animals suffer. I find that really sad, since it is sooo preventable.

      3. Linda Swanson says:

        That is about as stupid a comment in the midst of very stupid comments. Yee Gads the people of St. Louis are about a sharp as a marble

    2. elizabethrc says:

      Sheila, as a long time breeder, I have experience with the spay and neuter process. You are dead wrong about the guard dogs. No one can tell you what the temperament outcome of the operation will be. Many times I have seen dogs become docile, lazy and fat.
      You need to be responsible in what you write because obviously you don’t have all the facts.

    3. PJ says:

      My animals are house-bound, posing no ‘threat’ of insemination — why on Earth should you imagine that you have the right to come into MY house and tell me what to do with MY pets? You’d better come armed, because neither you nor the good politicians who imagine themselves my ‘betters’ don’t have any right to nose into my business, my house, or the lives of my family.

      1. MorganGray says:

        Simple, because for so long we have allowed the government to come into our homes and tell us what we can and cannot eat, drink, smoke, etc. (They even tell us that our houses belong to them, and we must pay rent – in the form of property tax – to them or they will kick us out.)
        We have allowed them into our schools where they tell us what we can say, think, or teach.
        We have allowed them into our churches where they tell us about what we can speak or pray.
        We have allowed them onto our streets where they tell us what we can display.
        Why would they stop at telling us how we can handle our animals?
        You are right on one point however:
        If you want to come poking your nose that deeply into my affairs, come early, come armed, and bring lots of grub.

    4. Deano says:

      Right on Sheila! Unfortunately, Missouri is the puppy mill capital of America.

  9. Alex says:

    Was born in St. Louis; will die is Seoul. Life has been so much better after moving to Asia. God a job, a life, and a girl here. More than st. louis has ever given me.

    There is always a chance things can go south here, but you know what? I would rather have tyranny come in a foreign country than from my own. Good riddance.

    1. heatherfeather says:

      I’ve got dual citizenship with Canada and moving north is looking better all the time.

      1. slayer88 says:

        So go already eh….

      2. Fix'em first says:

        Can you take me with you. Every Canadian I’ve ever met is more freindy and out-going than almost any Northerner; Yankee; I’ve seen move to NC in the last 20 years. I’ love to fix them, oo.

  10. George W. Axl Rosebush says:

    Ignore the law. Impossible to enforce. Ignore the fines. When we do have our revolution, the courthouses and collection agencies will make lovely 4-Alarm fires, as the Fine Police and Fee Enforcers records go up in smoke.

  11. Larry Prchival says:

    Start with the overbreedin welfare queens. Then there wont be any drug dealers, thus no need for pits, rotts, or GSDs to protect their illegal booty.

  12. ZannyAck says:

    Quote by “Arthur Kinney”

    Wouldn’t it be more cost effective and beneficial to spay and neuter all politicians?

    You couldn’t be more correct, Sir!

  13. Maobama says:

    Why not spay and neuter all the humans in the area instead?

    1. Suburban Boy says:

      Starting with the worthless Anti-Christian, Godless Jesus-Hating Downtown Loft Dwellers of Washington Avenue

  14. Ookin Panub says:

    I can see thousands of Spay and Neuter Police looking diligently under millions of animals to make sure they are fixed. Don’t these alder persons ever use their brains? Oh wait…never mind.

  15. Albert Schweitzer says:

    I am appalled at the aldermen wanting to sterilize the ghetto underclass of St Louis. Their depiction of them as stray dogs is despicable.

    1. Suburban Boy says:

      Those people who live in the downtown lofts on Washington Avenue are worse.

  16. Taraas Balderdash says:

    Hundreds of legislators who come up with insane, anti-constituent and anti-constitutional laws are removed from office each year, left to wander the streets and be picked up and put in shelters. Do the humane thing and spay or neuter your legislator today!

  17. Jim Bob says:

    This is only an attempt at getting microchips in every living thing. Has nothing to do with “strays”. The farmers have said NO to NAIS and microchippoing all livestock. No they are trying to start in the cities and spread out from there. We need to find out the people who are behind this and get them out of office.

  18. F A Rightists says:

    It’s clear that the aldermen should be sterilized although I would prefer retroactive abortion for them.

  19. Montford John Greenwood says:

    Ignore the laws. Jury nullification. Anything $20.00 and over can go to court and trial by jury.

  20. jim says:

    So who are consider “the poor”??????

    To help the poor pay for the cost of the operations on their pets, the city would provide some income-based cost reductions.

    So is it the poor/middle-class/rich that owns the animals that cause the problems????

    Just nothing more that redistribution of wealth once again!

    Look at the owners of many of these pets they have no responsibilities for there actions five kids five different dads running wild in the streets and society picks up the tab for these animals also.

    1. marie says:

      its not the dog’s fault man- this doesn’t help them- they get no satisfaction out of a free spay or neuter- one dog can produce like a hundred offspring in only a couple of years- it’ll save you tax dollars later when you don’t have to euthanize them all.

  21. Hoser says:

    I think the City is insane. Here’s a comment on the science: Operations are not necessary. An abdominal x-ray dose is non-invasive and will sterilize female animals. Active stem cells make it harder to sterilize males. Any DVMs out there? What do you think? Naturally, you’ll be getting a lot of work…. $$$

  22. jim says:

    Oh buy the way Pit Bulls have become the best security devise ever invented to protect meth-labs, drug house and other illegal activities.

    Don’t feel bad St. Louis here in Illinois last wee they past a law that you have to have a government ID will you picture on to buy drain cleaner in all stores!

    But law states that it is racist to ask for a picture ID to vote for the president of the United States?

    Meanwhile the country is going down the tubes and all our politicians can worry about are dogs and cats running around the city and drain cleaner.

  23. Boycott St. Louis says:

    St. Louis is a degenerate and decrepit city run by a bunch of low grade morons.

    http://911essentials.com

    1. Suburban Boy says:

      The problem is all of those downtown loft dwellers on Washington Avenue ruining the American Way of Life

  24. Freedom Isn't Free says:

    Don’t St. Louis politicians have more to worry about than whether pets are spayed or neutered – like the murder rate, for instance?? This country is going down the tubes when the pols think they have the right to micromanage our lives. In the last few years, I’m beginning to truly understand how people in Communist China must feel.

  25. MypetMychoice says:

    HSUS is behind this type of legislation. They make it look like they have the animals well being in mind – don’t even operation a shelter. Their agenda is all pedigreed animals gone in a year, and NO pet ownership for anyone, ultimately.
    They are the group pouring billions into lobbying at the local and national level to get this passed thoughout the country.. They play on ignorance.
    CA is finding out just what the increased load is to shelters and strays since some counties pass the law – HUGE.
    Check out HumaneWatch.org to find out the truth.
    Neuter/spay? Yes Manadatory? NO!

  26. yo mama says:

    Ob*ma would modify that with an executive order so that only white dogs and cats get neutered.

  27. Fk2xStds says:

    Change “pets” to “Democrat politicians”, and you’ve got MY support!

  28. M. Asculated says:

    Obama must now be wary about being in St. Louis at the same time as Rev. Jesse Jackson:

  29. SorryToSeeYouGo says:

    Just one more way to make money.
    This is a Revenue bill.

    What a shame that local, state and federal governments have such a powerful means of destroying everything. Extortion, by taxes and regulations WILL be the single reason this ‘once great’ country ends up as some third world dictatorship, like Venezuela.

  30. moses schwartz says:

    From Intact Moses
    Mandatory neutering?
    That will go to court – giving new meaning to
    The ball(s) are in your court?

  31. jim says:

    10 most dangerous cities in terms of crime risk

    1. St. Louis (Number One)
    2. Atlanta
    3. Birmingham Alabama
    3. Orlando
    5. Detroit
    6. Memphis
    7. Miami
    8. Baltimore
    9. Kansas City, Missouri
    10. Cleveland

    1. Suburban Boy says:

      All of those cities have downtown lofts

  32. Aztec says:

    They forgot to include the most obnoxious pest of all in the mandatory spay/neuter proposal – POLITICIANS!

  33. Mark Carlton says:

    In a related story, dogs and cats have proposed that all St. Louis aldermen be spayed or neutered.

  34. Bryan in South City says:

    I hate irresponsible dog owners. Criminal #1 in my world is my neighbor. I can’t use the rear half of my house (were I sleep, eat, and cook) or my basement without the sound track “Ode to a False Alarm in Dog Sharp”. When they get really bad, the mid section of my house can hear it too (includes my office and living room).

    Evidently there is a difference between a car alarm that disturbs the peace and a dog that does so. I wasn’t aware of that, but I guess I was too litteral in learning and applying the “crying wolf” lesson in security practice.

    If you want protection, dogs that constantly bark do nothing for you. Dogs that bite do, and more importantly, cameras are cheap these days. Dog’s can’t submit evidence either btw.

    Oh, and of course animal control and the STLPD won’t do a damned thing either despite repeated calls.

  35. racefanaz says:

    WHY is this a news story?! its mandatory at every shelter or pound ive ever been too or seen, and in many locations when one get s a pet license, one has to pay an additonal “breeder” type fee if the animal is NOT fixed, stupid waste of story drudge

    1. Fix'em first says:

      Because, it’s a violation of Private Property Rights. No one’s going to obey it, anyway.

    2. notyourmonkey says:

      Because most of us aren’t willing to go along with enslavement for security. I don’t believe that certain people are the peak of evolution and so know what’s best for everyone else that we must turn our bodies and everything we own over to them.

  36. Chris says:

    Maybe we should just spay or neuter all the politicians.

  37. American Worker says:

    Don’t stop with dogs and cats, how about all liberals and especially those on the welfare teat.

  38. Dave S. says:

    It’s a good thing dogs and cats grow on trees, otherwise, over time, something like this could wipe out the entire population

  39. SibeVibe says:

    Under what power is a city able to mandate spay/neuter or microchip? Animals, even those we love dearly, are personal property. There is no health concern with an intact animal. Reducing the population of dogs may help the city financially, but I’d love to see that study. The problem with animals on the street and poorly bred animals is the irresponsible owners. You do not “fix” all problems through sledge hammer legislation. You must weigh the right of a person to own an animal. As a citizen it is a right to own personal property. For the government to start requiring action as significant as surgery or implants, the issue should be weighed against a human being’s right to own the property in the manner the person chooses. When a branch of government seeks to require affirmative action on your part to do something, you should ask how does the government have that right? If there is a legit government interest in minimizing a right of a person, then the government is to do the least intrusive method to solve the issue. Just saying there is a financial issue will not suffice. And for those people who want to believe animals have rights, then go ahead and legislate that an animal has a right, and then our animals will sue for their right to have off spring.

  40. ONTIME says:

    How about sewing the lips shut on the law makers, that would reduce pollution both noise and hot air and improve the environment…..a lot.

  41. Doppster says:

    Mandatory spay-neuter has been demonstrated time and time again not to work. Many more pets end up abandoned and killed at shelters. All the major animal welfare organizations except the pro-killing loons at PETA and the fraud artists at the scandal-plagued, Charity Watch D-rated Humane Society of the United States have issued position statements opposing MSN. Best Friends, American Humane, Nathan Winograd’s No Kill Advocacy Center, Alley Cat Allies, the ASPCA and all the progressive animal advocacy groups in Missouri are against it. The folks behind this proposal need to educate themselves about real solutions to a problem they clearly know (or care?) little about.

  42. sure says:

    They really don’t want us to have pets. That’s money we spend that could be going to the government. That’s where all this is leading. We are eventually going to be told that having a pet is a hate crime. We’re almost there now. That’s why we can’t call them pets anymore.

    1. Alice Polarbear says:

      They’ll use the excuse that pets increase our carbon footprint.

  43. TexasForever says:

    Typical response to any issue by moronic Democrats.
    If you ask me anyone who supports Barack HUESSIN Obama and his Democratic Party should spayed or neutered.
    That would get this country back on the right track!
    Make no mistake about it Barack HUESSIN Obama is the ENEMY WITHIN!

    1. Alice Polarbear says:

      “anyone who supports Barack HUESSIN Obama and his Democratic Party should spayed or neutered” no argument there, although a good percentage are either gay or pro-abortion and not reproducing. For those who do, I agree with you. We don’t need more parasitic idiots mucking up the gene pool.

  44. LHardy says:

    Mandatory? No.
    How about licenses for cats? That would be a good start. For they are the largest problem concerning strays.

    Also this would drive up the cost of pets. Dogs are already outrageous.

  45. Reality Check says:

    Here is a great explanation of why this does NOT work:

    http://www.anticruelty.org/mandatory/

  46. Mlynne3 says:

    I’m wondering WHO is going to pay for the spay and neuter of all the stray dogs and cats? They think that making pet owners who care for their pets pay for a spay or neuter will make the fact that there are thousands of homeless animals running around the city go away? The problem is NOT responsible pet owners. There’s some kind of lobbying effort going on here – someone needs a favor …. so let’s come up with yet another bill / law that doesn’t address the problem but will line someone’s pocket with extra cash and also continue to herd the sheeple towards dictatorship.

  47. TMay says:

    I am against this overreach.Sometimes cats choose to leave a house and find another one. This idea that an animal’s first house is ideal and that the people care about the animal is an assumption.

  48. k9lvr says:

    What do the local groups like the HSOM, stray Rescue and the APAMO think about this? Have they gotten to weigh in? I hope they are consulting the experts!

  49. Crazy Cat Lady says:

    I feed feral cats and take non-feral strays into my home. I trap ferals and take them to be spayed and neutered. (as well as getting the procedures done on my own indoor darlings). I can’t catch all of them, although I try, spending a great deal of my money to do so. Will someone like me be made responsible for feral cats I feed but am unable to catch? Although I have some sympathy with the proposed law, I am also concerned that it is overreaching.

  50. CW Hart says:

    That means no dogs, from St. Louis, will be able to compete in American Kennel Club conformation, sports, or obedience competition. What a shameful, despicable, terrible display of sheer unmitigated prejudice!!!!!!!!!!

  51. Pat says:

    They are going about this totally wrong. There should be mandatory microchipping for identification purposes. If an intact animal is picked up running loose, the owner would have to provide proof that it was being shown on a regular basis in the AKC breed ring (which requires they be intact). Otherwise, there should be a huge fine and THEN forced spay/neuter as there would be no reason for that animal not to be if it weren’t being actively shown.

    Breeders should be required to microchip all puppies or kittens before sending them to their new homes, and register the chip in their names – providing the new owner with the paperwork to have their names put on the chip registration after they are purchased. This would apply to mixed breeds as well as purebred. This would create a paper trail for the chain of where this animal came from so that breeders (and people who just let their pets breed for whatever silly reason they do this) would be held responsible. Fines could result from breeders/people who didn’t take possession of their unwanted animals and deal with the situation themselves.

    And anyone selling or giving away an animal should be required to have a contract and be required to take that animal back at any time if it were no longer wanted. As a former breeder, I used to do this. To do otherwise makes you a puppy mill and a part of the overall problemm.

  52. Frank McAvoy says:

    Typical politician on a typical afternoon:

    “Hmm. It appears as though some people somewhere are not behaving in the manner I personally deem suitable. Quick! To the law-making!”

  53. gunnyginalaska says:

    I’d rather SPAY and NEUTER ALL LIBERALS! That way, we can be rid of the insider threat to America’s freedom and economy sooner than if they keep on aborting their larva.

  54. Gary Griffin says:

    how about the rats?

    1. Mlynne3 says:

      Gary, don’t you know that “rats have rights”? (Look that one up on the Internet – there were actually protestors’ – somewhere in this great nation of ours – protesting, carrying signs that “rats have rights”). Just when you thought you’ve seen it all….

  55. john says:

    I have a better idea – neuter (with a dull knife) all the city alderpersons supporting this proposal. They’re too stupid to be allowed to reproduce.

    1. John Barnett says:

      This is an example of stupid people breeding.

  56. Jason J. Merchant says:

    Doesn’t the government come up with the best solutions to things? I cannot wait till they take over health care.

  57. HughGKnutts says:

    Keep voting in democrats to run the circus and there will always be an unbelievable side show.

  58. gweg says:

    Spaying the councilman and woman should also be required if they think this law Ok.

  59. John Barnett says:

    This should include all the Democrats running the city.

  60. 1776 says:

    This type of mandate serves as a “beta test” (of sorts) for the Globalists to familiarize people with “mandatory sterilization”…as they’ve long had it in the cards for the human populace. If you doubt that, Google “Georgia Guidestones” and have a look at the 1st guideline/principle listed. The Elite are hardc0re eugenicists.

    http://www.infowars.com

  61. Miles Hession says:

    The people that came up with this crazy idea are the ones who need to be neutered.

  62. AgentVX says:

    How about mandatory castration and sterilization of city council members and animal rights activists? That’s two groups we don’t need multiplying.

  63. soahs says:

    Guys, before anyone comments negatively about this, please know the facts. St. Louis is a huge center for puppy mill breeding. It would be a very kind thing for dogs if these puppy mills were made to spay and neuter all of their dogs so they cannot produce anymore puppy mill dogs.

    Please go to Youtube and search for Amish puppy mills. You will be horrified by what you see. It is not just the dogs that suffer tremendously in these places, it is also you – and you. Because puppy mills breed dogs with inherited defects and illnesses. No matter how careful you are, no matter how much you check out the breeder of that puppy you give you heart to and buy, there will be a very good chance a puppy mill dog will be in that ancestry. And you will end up watching your dog suffer because nothing can be done to help your little friend.

    It would be a very good thing to spay and neuter all dogs. Allow purebreds to breed only if they have proven generations of illness free ancestors behind them. You won’t find this in puppy mills. Let St. Louis set an example for other states to follow – Do not allow puppy mill breeders anywhere.

  64. Gone to Texas says:

    This is a woman who watched from the back seat of the family car as a subhuman rat-savage blew the head off of her husband’s upper torso with a 12 gauge shotgun in their driveway several years ago.

    You would think she might recognize a number of higher priorities, such as black-on-white violent crime, or nigro violence in general. No, in her female mind, the big issue is spaying and neutering dogs and cats.

    It’s like worrying about the arrangement of the deck-chairs on the Titanic as its stern slips beneath the waves…

  65. Ruth Steinberger says:

    The arguements against mandatory spay/neuter are the same as those against mandatory seat belt laws, child safety seat laws; in fact even early laws against drunk driving were lridiculed.

    The number of companion animals killed in shelters is likely far greater than three to four million, as much of the US does not have mandatory reporting and the current drive to show reduced euthanasia is skewing the figures in many places.

    25% of dogs entering shelters are purebred dogs; this means that 75% are not. A reduction of that 75% would save taxpayer money, would stop suffering and would make sense. There was no incentive for thei births of the 75% of mixed breed dogs entering shelters, and like seat belts, child safety seats and helmets for motor cycle riders, the public picks up the bill for those who are irresponsible.

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